Secrets of an exotic dancer -CQW
posted by: Vixen
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“Whoever wishes to keep a secret must hide the fact that he possesses one”
Here is the deal. Joe and Linda are engaged, planning a wedding. Recently they went to her hometown to visit her family/friends, where it came out she used to be an exotic dancer (many, many years ago). He is miffed (understatement of the year) she never mentioned this ‘bit of information’ to him and ready to call the wedding off.
A- Should she have told him? Does she have an obligation to disclose ALL?
B- Is he over-reacting?
Ok so, honestly, I can’t imagine NOT telling the person I was going to marry and *in love with* everything. I suck at secrets. Hiding them, keeping them. It’s not me. And I am a very open person. NOT telling ‘all’ eats away at me. That said. Do I think she had an obligation to tell him? Um. No. Not really. I think it’s ‘normal’ or common for people to keep certain details regarding each others pasts from each other. And possibly it’s something she’s ashamed or not proud of…..or a part of her past she just wants to forget about. Who knows why she chose not to tell him.
I wonder if he is reacting the way he is bc of what she used to do OR if it’s bc she held something from him. He is wondering what else she might/would hide from him. He says ‘normally’ he wouldn’t date a stripper.
What do you think?
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May 6th, 2009 at 4:33 am
Everybody has things that are hidden, things that they do not want out in the open. And when you find out those things, if the person is important to you, you swallow your anger and remember that those things are part of what helped make the person standing in front of you.
I hope that they can work it out. But if not, it is best to break things off now, rather than after the wedding.
SO
hubmanMay 6th, 2009 at 4:53 am
I can’t imagine the prejudice this man harbors that her stripper past is reason enough to consider calling off the wedding. Or is it more that there was a secret, never mind *what* the secret was? In either case, I think he’ over-reacting, big time.
Another Suburban MomMay 6th, 2009 at 5:07 am
I can see him being upset as their is still a stigma against stripping (which is wrong)its not information you want to be blindsided with.
I do not think you have to disclose everything, but something that could come up and be a less than pleasant surprise should be mentioned.
DanaMay 6th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Hmmmm …
I’m wondering if her withholding of information was intentional, or just something she felt was irrelevant to the relationship.
Sometimes the motivation behind the “little white lie” is far more telling than the “lie” itself.
Is he overreacting? Maybe, although if this is a pattern of behavior on her part it could be a red flag.
Professor FateMay 6th, 2009 at 7:25 am
No coherent thought, just a series of bullets:
How did it just come out? If her friends knew then she should have known it wouldn’t remain a secret. If not, I am not sure how it just came up. It may have been her way of telling him (which is a different CQW).
Maybe his reaction is to the historical fact. Maybe that is why she didn’t tell him. It may have nothing to do with it being kept from him.
What I think is an important tidbit about someones past may not be considered by the person to be an important tidbit. She might not be hiding anything she just doesn’t understand why I think it is relevant.
She may have had bad experiences bad reactions to the fact in past relationships. Asking her to do her act. If it is something she wants to let go, I can see her withholding this information.
He may be overreacting. What other “secrets” does she have? But she is still the same person that you fell in love with. If he thinks that he doesn’t know her may be that is a sign that he is rushing into the marriage. How long have they known each other? How long have they dated?
Most of the strippers I have known socially have been neat women. Yes, many of them have some emotional baggage that lead them to the profession. Some have dependency issues. Two were college graduates. More than two were using stripping money instead of student loans.
The former stripper that my friend has married is wise for her 22 years. She is a good mother but just as naive about many of the worldly things as other 22 year olds.
angelMay 6th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Like you, I can not imagine hiding anything especially something as big as being a stripper, from one I was about to marry.
The one you marry is supposed to be your life partner, someone who knows everything..
Now, as a former stripper, I can understand not wanting to own up to it because of the stigma that is attached.. however, personally, I have never been ashamed of what I once did.. it made me who I am today and I am not ashamed of that.. but, it is different for all of us.
So, while this is something that should have been disclosed, I believe that he is overreacting if he calls off the wedding. We all make mistakes and if you truly love someone, you can forgive.
vixen kittenMay 6th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I can’t help but think it’s what she did, and not the fact that she didn’t mention it that has his panties all wadded up. I mean, if she failed to mention that she once worked at McDonalds would he still be calling off the wedding?
This is how I feel. If I like you…like the person you are, than I accept your history. The good and the bad. It all made you the amazing person you are today.
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May 6th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Tough call on the first question. I’d want details on that slice-of-her-life. Did she work at a relatively clean “Gentlemen’s Club” for 4 weeks at 19? Was she completely immersed in the sleaze, drugs, prostituion etc… that’s associated with the more Sopranosish type of club for years? On the second one, yes she should have told him whether she’s “ashamed” now or not.
blueballsMay 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
There are numerous factors that may come into play.
While it mostly the fact she withheld something matters more than what she withheld. But only by a little.
But Jobs hold stigmas good or bad.
Maybe they live a life now that stripping doesn’t fall into both of their moral norms now. If she “confessed” to him, he may have had an easier time accepting. But if this is the case it maybe a vegan couple having one spouse withhold that one was a chef in a steak house.
There may be trust issues, it may be he once got a handy in the VIP lounge from a dancer and is now pondering if she ever did that or “worst”.
But I think trust is the foundations of a good relationship and they don’t seem to have.
Westcoast WeirdoShe didn’t trust him to tell him. And so her reacted in this manner…which shows he doesn’t trust her.
May 6th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I don’t think she should have tried to hide it, but I don’t think he needs to call the wedding off either – unless he’s some super religious fanatic, where as, she should have known better hooking up with him in the first place.
PCMay 6th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I’m not big fan of secrets, except the one I’m keeping from my wife. But I think the guy’s acting like a girl. Give me a break. Do I have to list everything I did as a child too?
VixenMay 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
PC- yes. Yes you do. So spill. No. Before I change my mind.
;)
VixenMay 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
SingleOne- Great point you brought up. That is exactly how I feel as well on this matter. :)
VixenMay 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Dana- good point about ‘motivation behind a little white lie sometimes being more important than the lie itself’. I’m not sure what her motivations were.
VixenMay 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Prof Fate- Here is more that I am aware of but didn’t mention, that might help some of your questions.
She grew up across the country but moved to my state many years ago, where she attended college and now holds a professional job. As does her fiancee.
They went back to her home town to visit her family. While out at a bar one night someone (she didn’t recognize them) began talking to her and her fiancee. Bringing up that he knew her from “XYZ” and she was his favorite dancer. It was completely inadvertent that the fiancee found out. I don’t believe she had any intention of him discovering this tidbit about her. It was a stranger, that approached her.
You brought up great points.
VixenMay 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Angel- from an insider’s point of view (so to speak) I appreciate your thoughts on this. And I agree. He *should* be able to forgive and forget.
VixenMay 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Chef Troll- unfortunately I don’t know the specifics of the club she worked at. But those are valid points you bring up.
VixenMay 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
BlueBalls- I think you are right. They are lacking key foundation principles in their relationship.
And if there is no trust in a relationship it can immed begin breaking down.
CodyMay 6th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
She should have told him at some point in their relationship!
He is not being a baby/girlie about it.
THAT is a very embarrassing and AWKWARD situation!
How would you feel in that situation, being out with your loved one and have a stranger come up and say… HEY, I remember you! You were my favorite dancer, you used to give me the greatest lap dances and I loved having your naked body rubbing all over me in the darkness of the back room! I know for one… I WOULD HAVE KNOCKED THAT FUCKER OUT! THEN she would have a good walk home!
Now IF at some point she told me that she was once a dancer in her home town… I would be prepared for that POSSIBILITY! IF that happened and I knew it… I WOULD HAVE KNOCKED THAT FUCKER OUT! Would I be the knight in shining armor or just a jealous person? Either way it would have been MY fault! NOT HER LYING/HIDING SOMETHING! THEN she could make it up to me later!
There are issues in that relationship!
VixenShe does not trust him for whatever reason, but there is problems!
May 6th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Cody- ….well. While I agree there are clearly issues in their relationship. I’m not sure starting shit with the guy who was once a client/customer of hers would have been the best way to handle it.
PCMay 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I don’t know… I think I’d be like “Damn, Hon! I’ve got some dollar bills.”
CodyMay 6th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
I can also agree with not starting shit, I just read/interpretted that as a drunk guy being rude.
PCIF that was not the case… then not an aggressive confrontation just the protective boyfirend/husband excusing him from the area.
I can make that happen with words very successfully.
Ask SW, she’ll tell you I am wonderful and masterful at taking care of/protecting my ladies!
May 7th, 2009 at 6:58 am
Cody: I definitely believe in being protective. Vixen knows how protective I can be of my wife and children. So your reaction is definitely understandable.
Having said that, my earliest experience on date with Vixen resulted in guys buying her drinks– right in front of me. My first reaction was to think not to kindly of the guys. Were they morons? But then I thought about it again. I decided to view it as flattery. Plus, it was fewer drinks I had to buy. And, I was the one who left with the girl.
CodyMay 7th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
PC, I COMPLETELY agree with the buying her drinks!
PCLess $ I spend, I am the one who reaps the benefits of a little tipsy! Hey IF they are stupid enough to spend $ who am I to deny them the opportunity to part with their $!? Just as long as they KNOW that is what it is! Start getting out of line… PROTECTIVE HUSBAND SOLDIER mode kicks in! That is also true for my friends if they feel threatened as well.
May 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I’m with you on the protective mode. Just wired that way. I’ve had to work really hard to not see everyone as a potential threat. Re-training can be tough. You still in or are you out? I got out of the Navy in ’92.
CodyMay 7th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Yup still here and right now in Iraq. 3 more years til I can retire!
TUGMay 9th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Totally ignoring the question and going straight to the picutre. If it weren’t for the belly ring I’d swear I know the girl in that picture!!!